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	<title>Comments on: Car door of the future?</title>
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		<title>by: Jimmie</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4731</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The people who own that company used to own a company called Joalto Design from about 1990 through 2002. They got and burned up millions of dollars from investors before going bankrupt and losing everything. Now, they have renamed themselves Jatech and are trying the push the same technologies. 

John A. Townsend is the man behind the idea and he patented the &quot;Rotary drop door&quot; technologies. After going bankrupt, the patent filing fees were never paid and all of Joalto's patented are in te public domain. You can google Townsend and the patents and see for yourself.

The ideas were pretty sound and he had figured out all of the safety issue that everyone is asking about, such as emergeny unlatching, etc. It simply is not a feasible idea for an aftermarket conversion.

He's probably just collecting more money from investors. Just an opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who own that company used to own a company called Joalto Design from about 1990 through 2002. They got and burned up millions of dollars from investors before going bankrupt and losing everything. Now, they have renamed themselves Jatech and are trying the push the same technologies. </p>
<p>John A. Townsend is the man behind the idea and he patented the &#8220;Rotary drop door&#8221; technologies. After going bankrupt, the patent filing fees were never paid and all of Joalto&#8217;s patented are in te public domain. You can google Townsend and the patents and see for yourself.</p>
<p>The ideas were pretty sound and he had figured out all of the safety issue that everyone is asking about, such as emergeny unlatching, etc. It simply is not a feasible idea for an aftermarket conversion.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s probably just collecting more money from investors. Just an opinion&#8230;
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		<title>by: rix</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4702</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No way can this be cost competitive with two metal hinges and a handle. And if it breaks, what then? &quot;I seem to have an electrical fault in the door and I can't get out&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No way can this be cost competitive with two metal hinges and a handle. And if it breaks, what then? &#8220;I seem to have an electrical fault in the door and I can&#8217;t get out&#8221;
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		<title>by: PapayaSF</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4701</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice idea, bit I think it's a scam: on most (if not all) modern cars, there's simply no room to fit the doors in the area they seem to disappearing into.

I'd guess the average car door, including armrests and handles, is *at least* 6 inches thick. Now, how many vehicles have space underneath the floorpan for 6 inches of door, plus the tracks to hold them? Unless it's a Range Rover or equivalent, cars don't have that much ground clearance to spare.

Plus, it involves cutting into the doorsills, which are part of the unibody &quot;frame&quot; of the car. That would not be easy or cheap to do.

Certainly a car designer could design a car from scratch with doors like this, but their sweeping claim that they can retrofit doors like this onto existing cars strikes me as a bunch of hooey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice idea, bit I think it&#8217;s a scam: on most (if not all) modern cars, there&#8217;s simply no room to fit the doors in the area they seem to disappearing into.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess the average car door, including armrests and handles, is *at least* 6 inches thick. Now, how many vehicles have space underneath the floorpan for 6 inches of door, plus the tracks to hold them? Unless it&#8217;s a Range Rover or equivalent, cars don&#8217;t have that much ground clearance to spare.</p>
<p>Plus, it involves cutting into the doorsills, which are part of the unibody &#8220;frame&#8221; of the car. That would not be easy or cheap to do.</p>
<p>Certainly a car designer could design a car from scratch with doors like this, but their sweeping claim that they can retrofit doors like this onto existing cars strikes me as a bunch of hooey.
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		<title>by: Lawrence Fetter</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4700</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>All cars now have positive latch mechanisms for keeping the door latched in a side impact, rollover, or other accident mode. The door shown would be pushed into the occupant during a side impact. The door intrusion into passenger space in a collision would be unacceptable by current standards. 

Doors must now have internal reinforcement, i.e., side guards. With window mechanisms, side guards and other structural pieces, doors must have a thickness that is practical to package all of the components. Stowing such a door under the car and maintaining 6&quot; of ground clearance is fantasy. I can't imagine the mechanism required to accomplish the task. Electrical connections and weatherstrip requirements would be a daunting task, if not impossible.

Structurally, subject door concept is very poor. In torsion and bending loading, the door would add nothing to body stiffness. A convertible body requires additional members to provide stiffness for handling and road undulations. Subject door would add additional weight and reduce stiffness.

Yes, there are many very good reasons why vehicle doors, after decades of manufacture, still articulate in similar manner to the earliest models. I would be glad to see a new concept that is crash-worthy, cost-effective to produce, and contributes to vehicle body stiffness. When such a concept arrives, I want to see the details of how it works and the engineering data to support the claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All cars now have positive latch mechanisms for keeping the door latched in a side impact, rollover, or other accident mode. The door shown would be pushed into the occupant during a side impact. The door intrusion into passenger space in a collision would be unacceptable by current standards. </p>
<p>Doors must now have internal reinforcement, i.e., side guards. With window mechanisms, side guards and other structural pieces, doors must have a thickness that is practical to package all of the components. Stowing such a door under the car and maintaining 6&#8243; of ground clearance is fantasy. I can&#8217;t imagine the mechanism required to accomplish the task. Electrical connections and weatherstrip requirements would be a daunting task, if not impossible.</p>
<p>Structurally, subject door concept is very poor. In torsion and bending loading, the door would add nothing to body stiffness. A convertible body requires additional members to provide stiffness for handling and road undulations. Subject door would add additional weight and reduce stiffness.</p>
<p>Yes, there are many very good reasons why vehicle doors, after decades of manufacture, still articulate in similar manner to the earliest models. I would be glad to see a new concept that is crash-worthy, cost-effective to produce, and contributes to vehicle body stiffness. When such a concept arrives, I want to see the details of how it works and the engineering data to support the claims.
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		<title>by: calvin hopkins</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4699</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>heh Unless they install a canopy that pops out of the roof I can't see this being very practical for anyone living north of Santa Fe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh Unless they install a canopy that pops out of the roof I can&#8217;t see this being very practical for anyone living north of Santa Fe.
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		<title>by: Dizzy Dee</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4679</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ooh, that's rather cool.  Though I'm not sure if I'd like one of those for myself yet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, that&#8217;s rather cool.  Though I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;d like one of those for myself yet&#8230;
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		<title>by: CatherineL</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4678</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well - it's different.  Although I can't ever see me needing one.

And if it takes as long to work as their site takes to load I can't imagine it being that convenient either.

I too would want to see some safety stats before trying something like this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well - it&#8217;s different.  Although I can&#8217;t ever see me needing one.</p>
<p>And if it takes as long to work as their site takes to load I can&#8217;t imagine it being that convenient either.</p>
<p>I too would want to see some safety stats before trying something like this out.
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		<title>by: kristarella</title>
		<link>http://thefoologs.com/car-door-of-the-future/#comment-4676</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Woah, pretty proffessional video.

The only safety issue I can think of is that if you crashed your car it might be pretty difficult for someone else to open from the inside. Then again, power windows only working when the car is turned on hasn't stopped those from becoming very wide spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, pretty proffessional video.</p>
<p>The only safety issue I can think of is that if you crashed your car it might be pretty difficult for someone else to open from the inside. Then again, power windows only working when the car is turned on hasn&#8217;t stopped those from becoming very wide spread.
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